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When more security doesn't mean more rights

Posted by ShangXian - 11 days ago


Once again one of those few not so funny posts about the extremely uncanny, creepy and unnerving situation in the country I live, or better shitty country due to its fascist nature (and no fascist is not used as insult but as a fact considering the political history of that monster called Giorgia Meloni, probably one of the persons I hate the most in Italy), but I need to get this off my chest because of the emotional burden is giving me.


This country is going down a dangerous, self-destructive path especially with an opposition that is still non-existent, but among the many things I could list to rightfully talk shit about this government there is one that caught my interest and not for the better.


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Photo I've just took of the political talk show I watched about the thing that sadly caught my interest. I will first translate what it says:


Secret services powers


  • can access University and public administration's information
  • RAI circular requires video makers to film and make the sources traceable
  • secret services can now access to journalists' sources
  • with this decree secret services can direct and organize subversive organizations


Everything about this is horrifying at best and shows clearly how Italy is becoming gradually a slow, subtle yet silent authoritarian nation, why? Because the Senate’s Constitutional Affairs and Justice Committees have approved Article 31 of the “Security Bill,” on April 4, 2025. It is a bill promoted by Giorgia Meloni’s government that would like to address the fight against terrorism and organized crime, and police controls. And now you understand the title of my vent-blog.


The measure, originally a contentious security bill under discussion in the Italian Senate, was abruptly transformed into an emergency decree — a move that UN experts described as bypassing democratic norms and public transparency. “We are alarmed by how the government transformed the bill into an emergency decree that was swiftly approved by the Council of Ministers, bypassing Parliament and public scrutiny,” said the experts, who are appointed by the UN Human Rights Council (1).

The experts contacted the Italian Government in December 2024 (OL ITA 7.2024) indicating that if the proposed bill were not amended, Italy would be at odds with its obligations under international human rights law, including to protect the rights to freedom of movement, to privacy, to a fair trial, and to liberty, and to protect against arbitrary detention.

“The bill that is now a ‘decree’ includes vague definitions and broad provisions related to terrorism that could lead to arbitrary enforcement,” the experts warned. “The decree will also put freedom of expression at risk and may disproportionately affect specific groups, including racial or ethnic minorities, migrants and refugees, potentially leading to discrimination and human rights violations.” (2)


Everything is plain wrong on many levels but being a University student what scared even more was the first point (the one about the possibility to keep a file on everyone (students and teachers alike) deemed "dangerous to national security". To better make you understand this I will translate in English what is well explained here (the most important parts): https://www.laleggepertutti.it/718492_le-universita-potranno-schedare-gli-studenti


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Universities will be able to keep a file on students


With the new Security Decree, Universities will have to "collaborate" with the Secret Services by providing information on the political opinions of students and professors, in derogation of privacy.


The new Security Decree 31, already approved by the Chamber and currently under consideration by the Senate, provides that Universities will be able to keep a file on students, and also researchers and professors. There is no privacy that matters: the rules on the confidentiality of personal data can, indeed must, be bypassed in the name of national security. Article 31 of the bill – entitled “Strengthening of information activities for security” – provides, in fact, that all Public Administrations – including Universities and other research bodies – will have to collaborate with “Secret Services”, that is, the national security protection bodies (which are currently the DIS, the AISI and the AISE) in providing them with all the information deemed necessary for the protection of national security.


Example:


If a student – ​​or even a teacher – participates in a certain political movement, or an activist association, the University must communicate this upon simple request from the Services. The same must be done if a professor teaches theses in the classroom that are considered “dangerous” or subversive.


What changes


The difference compared to the past is that previously these national security protection bodies could ask the Universities for confidential information on enrolled students, as well as on teachers, but the Universities could oppose the reasons of privacy (and also the Authority for the Protection of Personal Data had intervened several times to limit these requests for access).


As Luciana Cimino writes in Il Manifesto, “the article in question aims to modify the 2007 law on the security information system. But if that text regulated that «the DIS, the AISE and the AISI can correspond with all public administrations and with the entities that provide (…) public utility services and ask them for the collaboration necessary for the fulfillment of their institutional functions», the new formulation of the Meloni government changes the order of the subjects and the verb, modifying for the worse the collaboration between state bodies and universities”. [Translator's note]


Mandatory collaboration


Now it will no longer be like this: the new rules make "collaboration" "mandatory" (as specified in the explanatory report accompanying the Decree), which can be requested - or, better said, imposed - by unspecified "needs to protect national security", which the requesting bodies are not required to specify or justify. It will therefore be necessary to respond to a simple request from the Secret Services, without the possibility of objecting.


In short: the good of the State comes before the needs of citizens to keep their sensitive data, such as political opinions or sexual orientation, private. And privacy is no longer valid: it melts like snow in the sun the moment the organs of the services invoke national security.


Why privacy is no longer valid


There is more: the same mechanism will apply to all Public Administrations in general, including controlled and participating companies, therefore the Secret Services will be able to ask for and obtain, in the same way, confidential information on their employees and collaborators, and all this even in derogation of the privacy regulations that otherwise should protect public employees to the maximum (from the garbage collector, from the magistrate to the municipal employee).


The agreements to be stipulated


To define the concrete modalities of this new collaboration – which, where necessary, will also extend to “technical and logistical assistance”, therefore a sort of 100% availability of their own facilities – specific agreements will have to be stipulated between the secret services and the Universities, as well as other central and local Public Administrations. These agreements may also regulate the methods of “opening” to the investigative bodies of their respective databases and computerized or paper files, containing all the information on the employees or students enrolled in the Universities.


How the filing of students and teachers will work


Essentially, from that moment on, the possibility will open up for the Secret Services to file students and teachers based on their orientations, inclinations and political opinions, or any other data deemed "interesting" by the aforementioned bodies for the purposes of national security: Universities and other public bodies will no longer be able to refuse to provide information based on the legislation on the confidentiality of personal data, not even when it concerns sensitive data, the disclosure or dissemination of which would otherwise constitute a crime.


Who can collect information


The national security protection bodies authorized to request and obtain information on university students and, in general, on all public employees – those that we have just generically called Secret Services – are, precisely:


  • Dipartimento delle Informazioni per la Sicurezza (DIS, 'Department of Information for Security' in English)
  • Agenzia Informazioni e Sicurezza Interna (AISI, 'Internal Intelligence and Security Agency')
  • Agenzia Informazioni e Sicurezza Esterna (AISE, ?Italian: External Intelligence and Security Agency?)


When will the new rules come into force


Now we await the final approval by the Senate of the "security package" which includes the innovations we have talked about (and which contains many other important rules, such as the possibility for members of the Secret Services not only to infiltrate terrorist and subversive associations, but even to direct them) and its next entry into force, which will occur with the publication of the legislative text in the Official Journal, unless the President of Italy (currently Sergio Mattarella) raises objections of unconstitutionality by refusing to sign the measure and sending it back to a new examination by the Chambers. (3)


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I don't know what creeps me the most: the possibility to be filed because I participated for something deemed dangerous to national security (i.e. pro-Palestine demonstrations, rave parties, strikes, etc.) and so the fact they may know everything about me or the fact secret services can direct a terrorist organizations or subversive organizations such as Forza Nuova, Casa Pound, Azione Studentesca to keep at bay left-leaning or progressive movements. Not to mention the deep hit to privacy. If Partito Democratico doesn't wake up for real I won't wait for my rights to be taken away. Getting out of this shitty country is an alternative I can't wait to put in action. I am sick of living here and I don't blame the 156,000 young researchers who left Italy to never come back in 2024.


Sorry for this more anxiety-inducing post but it's important to be politically aware of what happens around the world, and I needed to get this off my chest. On a more positive note, in the next blog I will promote an artists, but I won't tell now who is ;)

Take care everyone!


UPDATE 16/04/205:


So after scrolling through various Italian media about this unsettling part, and after reading through the decree in the Gazzetta Ufficiale, the obligation for universities and public administrations to provide confidential information to intelligence agencies, as provided for by Article 31 of the bill, is dropped BUT collaboration will remain optional and must take place in compliance with privacy regulations.


Sadly the provision, which strengthens the undercover activities of the services by allowing undercover agents to direct and lead terrorist-subversive associations, still remains. (4)


Despite slight changes this doesn't change the severity of the situation because even thinking about this is enough to jeopardize political structures of this country.


References and footnotes:

(1) https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/04/italy-un-experts-concerned-administrative-enactment-problematic-security

(2) Ibidem

[Translator's note] this is not part of the article I translated, but I thought to add it to complete the info about the previous law.

(3) https://www.laleggepertutti.it/718492_le-universita-potranno-schedare-gli-studenti

(4) https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2025/04/04/dl-sicurezza-cosa-cambia-servizi-migranti-sim/7940926/

https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/atto/serie_generale/caricaDettaglioAtto/originario?atto.dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=2025-04-11&atto.codiceRedazionale=25G00060&elenco30giorni=false


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dang this sounds terrible. i read about benito mussolini in my government class and oh boy, i did NOT like him. it's sad to see Italy still struggling with authoritarian rule man...
Wish u guys the best of luck

Italy and its relationship with its fascist past is a long, and complex topic especially because neo-fascists movements transformed to be more acceptable to the general public. If I had to use an animal to represent them they would be a squid. Squids are able to change colours pretty fast and in a very appealing visual way. They are very good at adapting, this is why democratic forces shall always be strong and prepared against them even by being intolerant against all intolerances.

This security decree, despite removed six highly unconstitutional points, it toughens existing penalties and gives too many powers to the secret services which are already quite strong in the name of a danger of terrorism when the Italian secret services are very efficient. How many times have I heard on television the news of the secret services dismantling terrorist cells even before they carried out attacks

A bit of history of Italian secret services:

The Military Information Service, known in Italian as Servizio Informazioni Militare or SIM, was founded on October 15, 1925. It originated from a military information system structure within the Italian Armed Forces. From February 6, 1927, it was placed under the direct control of the Chief of General Staff. Benito Mussolini is said to have changed the leadership frequently as he did not have complete confidence in the service. The SIM was largely focused on France, Austria and Yugoslavia, and was not involved in quelling anti-fascist opposition during Mussolini's reign, which was handled by the Ministry of the Interior and the OVRA.

By January 1934, the SIM had approximately 40 people in service (in addition to informers) and a budget of around two million lire. When Mario Roatta was put in charge of the agency, the budget was doubled to around four million lira.

Then in 1974, General Vito Miceli, a former chief of Servizio Informazioni Difesa (SID), was arrested for "conspiracy against the state" after the attempted Golpe Borghese. In 1977, a legislative act reorganized intelligence agencies under civilian control. This re-organization mainly consisted of:

1) split of SID into two separate agencies with different roles: SISDE (the domestic agency for the defense of democratic institutions, run by the Interior affairs ministry) and SISMI (the military secret service, run by the Defense Ministry)
2) creation of CESIS to coordinate and direct the two intelligence agencies under the authority of the Presidency of the Council of Ministers
3) creation of a parliamentary committee to oversee the activities of the two agencies

In October 1990, Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti's public revelation of the existence of Gladio, a stay-behind anti-Communist network supported by NATO, caused another scandal.

The SISMI's chief, Nicolò Pollari, resigned in November 2006 after his indictment in the Abu Omar case, which concerned the kidnapping of Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr in Milan in 2003. The judiciary investigation into the abduction of Abu Omar uncovered a SISMI-run black operation targeting center-left politician Romano Prodi and a domestic surveillance program involving Telecom. The SISMI was also implicated in the Niger uranium forgeries scandal, during which SISMI agents transmitted false documents to US President George W. Bush which were used as pretext in the invasion of Iraq. In August 2007, Italian magistrates searching the SISMI's headquarters found documents proving that the intelligence agency had spied on various European magistrates between 2001 and 2006 who it considered to be carrying a "destabilization" potential. These included the Medel, a European association of magistrates, and as three French judges including Anne Crenier, a former president of the Syndicat de la magistrature French union.

Then we had reforms in March 2007
The center-left government of Romano Prodi created a new "information system for security" called Sistema di informazione per la sicurezza della Repubblica. It introduced far more detailed procedures with regard to state secrets, cooperation with police forces and public administrations, judicial investigation of the conduct of secret service personnel, regulating the procedure for undertaking acts normally deemed illegal, and the acquisition of secret documentation by oversight bodies or judicial authorities. The system placed intelligence agencies more closely under the Prime Minister's supervision, who is responsible for nominating directors and deputy directors of each agency.

The SISDE, SISMI and CESIS were replaced with AISI, an internal information and security agency, the AISE, a foreign intelligence and security agency, and DIS. The parliamentary committee overseeing the intelligence agencies (COPASIR) was granted additional oversight and control powers, with the DIS general director acting as secretary.

Of course this is an extremely summed-up history of the secret services because there would be a lot to cover but that would make my comment probably tedious to the reader.

Thank you. Only solutions: opposition parties must wake up and unite. I'm tired of this splitting of the atom that seems to characterize the left-wing and center-left parties. Either they unite or they die at this point.

Resistance, peaceful protests (for now) and political awareness among the young people who unfortunately seem a bit disinterested here.

damn... this is horrible. but i hope that everything will get better soon

The worst part about keeping a record of students and teachers thankfully seems over, hence my update but this universities and public administrations can still cooperate if they want. Collaboration will remain optional and must take place in compliance with privacy regulations. So I am still not happy with this, but this decree contains other questionable stuff such as the abolition of the obligation to postpone the sentence for pregnant women or mothers of children younger than one year: therefore, from now on they too can end up in prison. This is one of the most contested points of the provision, on which the attention of the Quirinal had focused. The change made is minimal and does not concern the execution of the sentence but rather precautionary custody: the bill includes the obligation to carry it out in an institution with attenuated custody.

I miss 1946 Italy.....

Of course if there will be changes or updates I will add in the blog to give info as much correct as possible with my limited knowledge.

I wrote something but i deleted it, i didn't wanted to pass off as the "angry guy who scream and do nothing".

I just wanted to express how infuriating it is for me when the government use the law and cops to protect themselves from the consequences of their actions. I hate that when the government use "crime" or "deliquence" as a reason for their fascist laws.

In France, politicians always act as if the country was constantly under the threat of something.

They make old people who live in safe towns fear for crime, because old people are the majority.

I hate their hypocrisy. They don't care about crime. When there's a terrorist attack, they don't care. They just use it to say "see, I was right". Fuck them.

Criminologists are here for a reason, but nobody listen to them. Crime is more complex than "this group of people=bad".

Don't worry about deleting your previous comment, I understand the necessity to word better and sometimes emotions can get in our ways to express what we want.

"I just wanted to express how infuriating it is for me when the government use the law and cops to protect themselves from the consequences of their actions"

Welcome to Romania XD on a more serious note I feel your anger and frustration. I experience it all days when I see these useless piece of crap (they don't deserve the title of "politicians") getting away with their crimes. Now we are living in an era where security is becoming synonym of control and not real security. Look for example with Internet; despite I agree with monitoring dangerous people and making sure virtual environment are not poisoned with discriminatory or even worse crap, I see too many times attempts at hitting some fundamental rights such as privacy. And now neurotechnologies are not that prevalent like they will be in the future, because I don't want to image the creepy territory we are going to enter. Black Mirror docet...

And speaking of this dangerous Security Decree, United Nations human rights experts have expressed deep concern over it. Originally the decree was introduced by the Ministries of Interior, Justice, and Defense as a bill that tried to amend several legislative provisions included in the Criminal Code. As a consequence, in December 2024 UN experts had contacted the Italian government to warn that if the proposed bill was not amended, Italy would most likely be contradicting its international human rights obligations. These obligations encompass protecting the rights to freedom of movement, privacy, fair trial, and liberty, as well as safeguarding against arbitrary detention.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/law-order/3346203-un-experts-urge-italy-to-revoke-controversial-security-decree-amid-rights-concerns

And the fact the government decided to transform the bill into an emergency decree, bypassing parliamentary and public scrutiny, concerns me on many levels. This shows clearly the will of this government to bypass political tools that would keep at bay the government's powers.

Now I am very curious to see today what Meloni will offer to Trump when it comes to tariffs *grabs popcorn*

DAMN! Sounds like your living as a citizen in a nation on the AXIS during Ww2. I pray for you, I hope the country does the right thing eventually.

I just hope the economic situation makes this government fall, hoping opposition parties stay united this time because if I have to hope for people to wake I highly doubt considering the high functional illiteracy. With such government the country won't do anything good. It's already making lots of mistakes that will be paid by population. Thanks for the concern though

my best friend is italian and i did not know this was going on inside the country, dang.. best of luck to yall.

Thank you, really!
I inherited from my mother passion for politics even if it makes me very angry every time I hear politicians' lies and because of this I limit myself with political content in the shape of political show (like the photo I posted in the blog) and political debate in the Parliament. Let's say it's more correct to say I like political science, because I like to explore what happens from the inside and outside a specific country.

Ofc I don't plan to always talk about politics because I don't want to spread negativity but when I feel something crucial (like strengthening intelligence services powers), important or extremely unsettling, at least to me, I feel to vent out a bit. And I admit I feel better after writing these blogs.

Meloni is cruel. Can't even have basic rights in a country anymore..

Del resto non mi aspetto granché da una fascista nell'anima e non uso "fascista" come insulto ma con cognizione di causa visto e considerata la sua storia personale e politica. Quella là ha sulla coscienza vite di migliaia di persone, ma data la sua natura non ha una coscienza altrimenti passerebbe le notti in bianco. L'Italia potrebbe essere il faro d'Europa, e lo dico da romena, ma manda tutto in caciara perché non ha un senso civico nazionale di responsabilità. Aggiungici anche l'elevato numero di analfabeti funzionali che è il più alto in Europa, la disaffezione politica et voilà ecco questo governo che è la risposta alla domanda: "ma se i cazzari da bar governassero un paese, come sarebbe questo paese?"